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January 2008 Write-a-thon?

Hi Aleta, am I just completely an over-eager beaver this year or is the Write-A-Thon going to be happening today, January 2? Oh, and Happy New Year! Louise Valmoria 13:56, 1 January 2008 (CST)

'Morning, Lou! You're not overly-eager, ordinarily it would be scheduled for today, but due to expected...ah...over-indulgence, it's been moved to next Wednesday, the 9th. Non-forum frequenters wouldn't know that, so I'm about to post a note on the Main Page.

Can you be here next Wed? Pretty please?

Aleta Curry 15:07, 1 January 2008 (CST)

Morning Aleta! Thanks for that--I'll need to check the forum more often, I think. I will be here next Wed with bells on! (or maybe something less Christmassy--we're over that now). Thanks again for the update.Louise Valmoria 18:55, 1 January 2008 (CST)

And I went and fixed Write-A-Thon thinking it was this Wednesday... five minutes later User:Robert_W_King fixed that though :) Also, Happy New Year Aleta Eric M Gearhart

"Class acts" indeed.

;D --Robert W King 21:15, 1 January 2008 (CST)

No joke! We've got some really heavy hitters here, and (in addition to starting some stratospheric stuff), people have brought over some great articles from WP.

If you ask me, there are some statements in the WP/CZ instructions that seem snide--just shy of 'Wikipedia bashing'. I'd like to eliminate them all--it's been bothering me for months! Sigh--I'll just add that to the list....

Aleta Curry 21:35, 1 January 2008 (CST)

Fuzzy dog

Glad you approve: for a second I thought it must be a new breed - Ro Thorpe 08:38, 3 January 2008 (CST)

Black Beauty

Thanks for the edits...I was seeing how those subcategories worked! --Kate Fultz Hollis 09:36, 6 January 2008 (CST)

Party Hearty!

Hi Aleta, I could not be a complete bore two parties running. Usual dull excuses apply, but I see that fun is to be had here once again. Hope you are getting some rain, and not too much, wherever you are. My cousin is in Lismore and has eight rescue helicopters using the sports field opposite her house as a makeshift heliport for the floods. Anyway, back to it. Must get into the party officially somehow... Best, --Ian Johnson 13:47, 9 January 2008 (CST)

Excellent! Fab-u-lous to see you back--although I gather you've been using the brain cells a great deal on the PR front. The weather extremes are amazing, aren't they? We've just got tons of grey and drizzle; the Shoalhaven Gorge is only a couple of Ks away, and our property takes in a bit of Tallowa Gully--plus Le Shack and the construction site are on the side of a hill,so no chance of flooding. Were you in Germany for the hols? Must've been a blast! Aleta Curry 14:57, 9 January 2008 (CST)

Christmas in Brussels and the Netherlands. Here is a link to Chrissy in BE. Was good. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGGKAqyBRDA>

Time for bed here -- past! Anderson Cooper is rabbiting on -- and when you're in Europe and he pops up, you know it's late. Two Press Releases today hence my late slumber... --Ian Johnson 21:04, 9 January 2008 (CST)

'Night then! See you soon! Aleta Curry 21:16, 9 January 2008 (CST)

thanks...

...for remembering to invite me :) Chris Day (talk) 16:53, 9 January 2008 (CST)

Not at all--delighted! Aleta Curry 17:02, 9 January 2008 (CST)

thanks

for inviting me! I hope to edit more extensively for the next write-a-thon. Hey, I have 3 hours of citizediting left before it's Thursday! Let's see what people from the West Coast have to say! Pierre-Alain Gouanvic 20:38, 9 January 2008 (CST)

De rien. Three more hours--whoa--that's ages! Wonder if we've got anyone in Hawaii? :) Aleta Curry 20:49, 9 January 2008 (CST)

I dunno, but Hayford is in Tahiti, I think. I see he has edited my skin! Pierre-Alain Gouanvic 20:52, 9 January 2008 (CST)

Thanks but Sorry

Aleta, I'm caught in a job transition right now and hope to be back in shape by the next Geogra-thon! Supten Sarbadhikari 22:11, 9 January 2008 (CST)

Eeeewwww! Know how that goes! Good luck and see ya soon! Aleta Curry 17:22, 10 January 2008 (CST)

thanks

for the invite (and for spelling "neighbourhood" (don't know why i wrote "behaviour" before) the correct, Commonwealth way); sorry i joined a little late in the game! Simon Overduin 23:38, 9 January 2008 (CST)

- thanks for the invite, guess I was getting carried away in Edinburgh Gareth Leng 09:32, 10 January 2008 (CST)

Oh, you're welcome, you're welcome. I'm going to head over now and see how the final results look.... And, Simon, we shall have to hang tough against the Yankee hordes! ;) Aleta Curry 17:24, 10 January 2008 (CST)

Drink of the month

I see Brandy is listed as a drink of the month on the write-a-thon. Nobody actually edited brandy see the hisory hense why I refered to it as an empty bottle in my write-a-thon summery. Derek Harkness 19:55, 11 January 2008 (CST)

What??! Are you trying to say that we're not drinking enough? That will never do! Well, I don't know that we had a "drink-of-the-month" official policy, but de facto it seems that the DOM was one everybody got into (so to speak) so I s'pose you're right. Aleta Curry 16:15, 12 January 2008 (CST)

I completely misunderstood your use of "edit". This was not even created this month; removed tired old bottle from shelf! Aleta Curry 17:27, 12 January 2008 (CST)

CZ live

I tried, and it worked! Surprising indeed to see that the CZ live tag wasn't there, if it's supposed to appear with the metadata template (and some level of activity, am i right?).... perhaps the vit C page had no CZ live because the CZ super live or CZ so live it's out of this world categories don't exist yet? Pierre-Alain Gouanvic

Hee, hee, hee--you could be right! We don't have an adequate mechanism for dealing with the superlative! (yet) Aleta Curry 15:15, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Sorry

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't really pay attention to Write-a-Thon, but I probably will write something next time. Thanks! Yi Zhe Wu 20:41, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Cool. I'll try to remember to remind you next month. Aleta Curry 22:55, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Clusters?

In re the discussion of Roman Catholic Church: what's a cluster? Could you direct me to a CZ policy page or whatever?

Right about the Catholicism article. That was what I added the "clarification" for.

James F. Perry 18:53, 18 January 2008 (CST)

Re Catholicism: yes, I thought that's what you meant, I was agreeing.

Re 'cluster': That's the CZ word for an article plus it's subpages, the Biology cluster.

I'm suggesting that for most topics, "History of XYZ" will not merit its own cluster, but will be a subtopic under its parent group. Obviously, for some large ones, yes, they will, and what would ordinarily be subtopics would merit their own clusters.

This is not cast in stone, James, our subpages are new and we're still formulating policy. Just my ideas.

Aleta Curry 16:23, 19 January 2008 (CST)

Subpages

I think the the Diabetes mellitus type 2 needs to have treatment broken off into a separate page. Should/can I do this as a subpage? Thanks - Robert Badgett 10:24, 23 January 2008 (CST)

Y'know, I completely read this wrong first time through. I thought you were asking whether or not you could treat the article Dabetes mellitus type 2 as a subpage of Diabetes, and I was going to say that you *could*, whether or not you *should* would depend on how you wanted to structure your clusters, how much infomation was different for all the diabetes types, etc etc.

Now, on re-reading, I believe you're asking whether "treatment" as in "how one attempts to control or eliminate this condition" should be a separate subpage of the article Diabetes mellitus type 2, yes?

Well, I think that would be preferable to say, starting a new article on the treatment of diabetes this, that, and the other.

To find available subpages, you need to click the Talk tab, then look down to where it says subpages and click the "show" button over to the right.

If, as I suspect, that does not give you enough options that you like, then I would talk to Chris about customizing tabs for diseases and medical conditions.

Great idea. I would like to organize our medical subpages so they are more predicable.

A suggestion, if I may. Could you consider an introductory article to Diabetes? Or use the tutorial subpages on such things as Diabetes mellitus type 2? Just reading it, it's not all that accessible to the layperson browsing...I mean..."surfing" the encyclopaedia.

I agree that this is needed. However, I think the expert version has to be sketched out first so we understand the science before we write the basic version. This avoids our writing something in the lay version that is incorrect. I see this all the time where watered down versions of medical topics make unsupported, incorrect statements. Also, I am afraid I do not have the time for writing lay versions. - Robert Badgett 16:16, 23 January 2008 (CST)

Aleta Curry 15:43, 23 January 2008 (CST)

Mistress

*PROD*... --Robert W King 14:38, 25 January 2008 (CST)

May you take a look to Fossilization?

Aleta,

months ago, you left a note that you are wishing to help with Earth Science articles, but how could you in such a specialistic field? And, do you remember my answer? You could help by checking out whether text were understandable and well written.

Well, that time is arrived at last. Fossilization is almost set for approval. It would be great if you could take the time to read it and comment. I thrust your writing style, you see...

Thanks in advance, I know you will help! Ciao! --Nereo Preto 10:54, 26 January 2008 (CST)

Of course I will! It's about 9 o'clock a.m. Sunday now, so I'm off to church, but I'll come back just for you in a couple of hours. Looks like we'll have a fine day, so I should have power--fingers crossed! At any rate, I promise to have a good, long look just as soon as I'm able. Aleta Curry 15:58, 26 January 2008 (CST)

Great Aleta, super-thanks! Nereo Preto 13:46, 29 January 2008 (CST)

Trouble with subpage call

I have been trying to get the subpages call to work properly on:

Olympic medalists in cycling (women)

After numerous experiments, I've given up. Any suggestions as to what might be wrong? The subpages seem to work just fine on the higher level pages of the Olympic Games catalogs.

James F. Perry 21:28, 27 January 2008 (CST)

Hi there, James. I've tried a few things, and I don't see it, either. Perhaps it just doesn't like another level? (sub-sub-subpages) I'd ask Chris if that's the problem.

Hubby's complaining he needs the line, so I've gotta go; will try again in the morning if you haven't worked it out.

Ciao! Aleta Curry 03:13, 28 January 2008 (CST)

I will ask Chris about the problem. I am beginning to suspect it is either a line length problem (that could be handled by re-naming the next-to-last file and possibly the last file in the line as well) or maybe it is the number of sub-levels. Hope it's not the latter. James F. Perry 10:20, 28 January 2008 (CST)

See my note on the page--it's the number of sub-levels. That's by design... --Larry Sanger 10:33, 28 January 2008 (CST)

Okay, then. James, Larry's note is on the "catalogs" talk page. Aleta Curry 15:01, 28 January 2008 (CST)

You act like I work here or something..

You should be all set up and ready to go. :) So can I use my Geograthon entry for the Write-a-Thon since it didn't get much attention this month? --Todd Coles 21:41, 29 January 2008 (CST)

Ignore that comment, I was thinking it was tomorrow and I'm all booked up. I think I'll go to bed now. --Todd Coles 22:13, 29 January 2008 (CST)

Yeah, well, we'll have to create a new category for you if you can't make it next week! Thanks! I didn't even remember about the Geograthon--saw the forum post too late! Gotta run--we're having a storm--deadly for solar power and dial-up! Ciao! Aleta Curry 22:15, 29 January 2008 (CST)

You should ask Jitse to modify the subpage bot to make write-a-thon announcements. --Robert W King 15:24, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Olympic Games catalogs

I just undid your edit to the Olympic Games catalog subpage. The listed sports are not supposed to link to mainspace articles on the sports in question. Instead, they should link to listings of Olympic Games medal winners (that is, catalogs). The sub-listings under cycling show an example. I didn't subdivide the individual sports because they may have to be handled idiosyncratically. Some sports medal winners lists would list all winners, male and female, on one list. Others would have to be divided into male and female lists, while others (such as track and field) might have to be sub-divided further for reasons of length.

I'm quite sure my revert is correct here. Articles in mainspace about the individual sports are shown in the related articles listing. Also, I used the official Olympic names of the sports as shown in the program for the Beijing Olympics. The article name on CZ might be different of course (see football for example).

I hope I am being clear above. It is the difference between an article about the sport and a list of medal winners in the sport (catalog).

James F. Perry 18:59, 31 January 2008 (CST)

Good enough; I must've misread. There will of course have to be a linked catalogue of Olympic sports, sounds like this isn't it.

Re naming: aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

Aleta Curry 15:01, 1 February 2008 (CST)

Welcome

Hi, how are you? You seem to have created a lot of articles to date. Meg Ireland 18:39, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Yes, I write...that's what I do. All's well here in the Southern Highlands, just getting a bit weary of grim, muddy weather! Aleta Curry 18:51, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Ah, God's Country. Well it's been raining up here in Sydney. Guess I'll be catching you around on Citizendium often. Meg Ireland 18:56, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Thanks for the invite

to the February write-a-thon. And happy Chinese new year! --Christian Liem 20:38, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Me too, I've been snowed under figuratively and literally. Plus, I might need to get a new computer, too many crashes. Chris Day (talk) 22:48, 6 February 2008 (CST)

You're both welcome! And Chris, I'm a member of the might-need-to-get-a-new-computer club. Utterly depressing, I've no idea what to do. Aleta Curry 16:25, 7 February 2008 (CST)

Dare I say it -- Get an Apple! Sorry I missed the W-a-Thon -- got stuck in UK for work purposes with limited net access. (But at least my little old Apple laptop didn't crash. HeHe.) Thanks also for the invite Aleta, and raincheck is firmly attached for next month... --Ian Johnson 10:28, 10 February 2008 (CST)

Oh, Ian! You can't expect me to learn a new operating system! Especially one that's not compatible with...anything else?!

Anyway, you'd just better be at the next write-a-thon or ~~I will drag you in by the~~--I mean--I will weep copious tears! Aleta Curry 15:39, 10 February 2008 (CST)

CZ International - thanks for getting us moving!

Hi Aleta! Actually, I think we should be thanking you for your organisational efforts, and for getting us 'on the same page'--literally, at least. So, thanks!Louise Valmoria 18:22, 15 February 2008 (CST)

You're all very welcome! I only write at a professional level in English, so I think I've taken things about as far as I can. Hope it works! Aleta Curry 18:35, 15 February 2008 (CST)

Yes, thank you so much! I have provided explanations of my position(s...) in both sections (public, private). I saw that you are taking care of the structure of the debate. If you feel that by being so detailed, I tend to obscure the decisional process, let me know. I may issue a complementary (and supportive) proposal, Translation Eduzendium, separately. Pierre-Alain Gouanvic 00:04, 17 February 2008 (CST)

I think your comments are fine and helpful, the only thing I would suggest is speaking specifically to why you think the Citoyendium should be public rather than private. (Maybe you have since I first read your comments, I dunno.)

Also, the proposal needs a driver within a week or it dies. Is this something you would like to take on?

I'd be completely comfortable with a separate proposal on translations, though I'm a little afraid it would further diffuse the talent. But, as you wish.

Aleta Curry 00:10, 17 February 2008 (CST)

Hebrew handwriting

I took a couple of Hebrew courses at an Ulpan school which were sort of immersion based is the best way I can describe it. It was so different from any other language I had learned, and I loved it. That's how I learned the written alphabet--almost all forgotten now, I would think. Anyway, a work colleague told me that I wrote half in printing, half in handwriting. So not only do I not know typeface, I don't even know the difference between printing and joined up writing! Oh, dear. Aleta Curry 14:21, 17 February 2008 (CST)

Well, Hebrew isn't useful for anything, except for a few very specific stuff, like being an archaeologist or living in Israel. Yuval Langer 08:12, 22 February 2008 (CST)

Re Dog/Draft approval

Aleta, Dog/Draft superb. I would vote for replacing the current approved version. I've never put up an approval nomination banner, and do not know if I am authorized. I know Larry's working on a better approval process. If David does not respond to your request, try contacting Larry on the status of the approval process. Meanwhile I'll check to see if I can put up the approval banner.

A couple of thoughts/questions:

How old the cave paintings? Perhaps you could state.
What do you think of http://www.dogsindepth.com/
Don't forget Lassie and Dagwood/Blonde's Daisy!

Nice contribution. --Anthony.Sebastian 15:57, 18 February 2008 (CST)

Thank you so much. I'll look into your suggestions! Aleta Curry 16:02, 18 February 2008 (CST)

Aleta, remember 'Snoopy" and 'Toto'. --Anthony.Sebastian 15:55, 20 February 2008 (CST)

Re Dog/Draft approval

Aleta, see http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ_Talk:Approval_Process#Something_needs_simplification. I will give it a try, but hope others will step in.

BTW: How do we know we can establish better rapport with dogs than with chimps (or bonobos) unless we domesticate the chimps and raise them with us from pups? Consider the question rhetorical. --Anthony.Sebastian 20:01, 18 February 2008 (CST)

LOLOL - spit take my tea! I'm glad you let me know that was rhetorical, in the state I'm in I'd probably be pondering this seriously. I'll look at the thread--and thanks again. Aleta Curry 21:48, 18 February 2008 (CST)

Nomination banner up for Dog/Draft

Aleta, Possibly I did a few things right to get Dog/Draft nominated. --Anthony.Sebastian 16:30, 20 February 2008 (CST)

Excellent, thanks. Meanwhile, I keep working on it. In between having a heart attack over fair use. Arrrrgggghhh!!! Aleta Curry 17:10, 20 February 2008 (CST)

Aleta: see http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Talk:Dog/Draft#Nomination_banner_up_for_Dog.2FDraft --Anthony.Sebastian 14:25, 26 February 2008 (CST)

You did it!!!! Congratulations on the Re-Approval of Dog! D. Matt Innis 19:20, 29 February 2008 (CST)

Recipes again

Please have a look at CZ:Proposals/Recipes_Subpage_and_Accompanying_Usage_Policy#Next_steps.3F. Supten Sarbadhikari 23:35, 27 February 2008 (CST)

Rottweiler

Thanks Aleta, the referencing seems quite adequate to me. David E. Volk 17:04, 29 February 2008 (CST)

Oh, good. Thanks for reviewing! Aleta Curry 19:59, 29 February 2008 (CST)

Congrats on March 01 2008 approval of Dog/Draft

Good work, Aleta. --Anthony.Sebastian 19:47, 29 February 2008 (CST)

Thank you, Anthony, for all the support! Aleta Curry 19:55, 29 February 2008 (CST)

Oh Recipes!

Please have a look at CZ:Proposals/Recipes_Subpage_and_Accompanying_Usage_Policy#Concrete_Steps_Ahead and kindly do the needful. Supten Sarbadhikari 22:24, 2 March 2008 (CST)

Getting in early

Hi Aleta

Another bad timing month for me puts me into Berlin all week from tomorrow, with limited internet access. So want to send my apols early. Next one. Promise. --Ian Johnson 09:44, 3 March 2008 (CST)

Awww...what? They don't have computers in Berlin?

Guess I'll have to let you slide.

Well, it's nice to know you didn't forget. See ya soon!

Aleta Curry 18:09, 3 March 2008 (CST)

Template:EZnotice

I created Template:EZnotice with three variables, school, subject, and enddate. Have a look see and tell me what you think. --Robert W King 11:48, 3 March 2008 (CST)

That's fab! Well done. Aleta Curry 18:13, 3 March 2008 (CST)

input requested on naming convention proposal

Please check out CZ:Proposals/Naming Conventions for Biographies#Final review? and respond there; if there is agreement, this proposal will move on to the next stage of adoption. Thanks, Anthony Argyriou 13:52, 3 March 2008 (CST)

inclusion

Here is an example of inclusion, Atom/Catalogs/Magnetic_nuclei. This table actually lives at NMR spectroscopy/Catalogs/Magnetic_nuclei but can be seen in the Atom cluster. A reader would not know this unless they tried to edit the table. Chris Day (talk) 14:28, 4 March 2008 (CST)

Write-a-thon theme

Hi Aleta, is there a theme to the current write-a-thon? Meg Ireland 16:57, 4 March 2008 (CST)

Yes! This month's theme is: "Something you absolutely love!"

Wobbly table

Happy parties, as the Brazilians say at Christmas, & thanks for the note.

I wonder if you can diagnose what's wrong with my table at I (that's as slim a blue link as one will ever see). I'm very new to tables: there must be a missing ingredient to explain why it won't 'take'. Thanks - Ro Thorpe 17:41, 4 March 2008 (CST)

Darlin' I know less than you do about tables. By the time I figured it out, Rob, Joe or Steve would have made short work of it and created lasting world peace. You can contact one of them, or Chris or Matt. I'd just put a "HELP!" note at the talk page; somebody will. Aleta Curry 17:56, 4 March 2008 (CST)

Thanks, I'd already put a note on the talk page: let's hope that'll do it - Ro Thorpe 18:01, 4 March 2008 (CST)

Led Zeppelin

Thank you. I'm absolutely humbled by the experience. I didn't expect anyone to vote for it. Meg Ireland 19:05, 4 March 2008 (CST)

Thanks

For the invite - regretfully I was unable to attend - my long suffering girlfriend proposed on Feb 29 and is now to be long suffering fiance - so we were whooping it up at a real party. kind regards --Russ McGinn 03:49, 5 March 2008 (CST)

Oh! Congratulations! Aleta Curry 04:11, 5 March 2008 (CST)

Hi yourself!

Hi, I think you're gonna have to add me to whichever category you think fit. I've been busy all day, and am now really burned out, and don't feel up to emitting coherent prose at this point today. The good news is I'm somewhat caught up on other areas of my life, and hope to be able to write tomorrow (although I'll probably be working on internal stuff first, alas - no fun writing articles for me :-). J. Noel Chiappa 20:45, 5 March 2008 (CST)

Ha! Sounds like you're entitled to a rest! Take a load off. Aleta Curry 21:29, 5 March 2008 (CST)

Spanish Translation

Aleta, I'm hoping you can lend a hand over at the Calcidius article. We have a Spanish speaking author who has attempted to translate an article from Spanish to English, but the prose is a bit shaky. I know you've been pushing the international thing, so I am hoping you have an idea as to if we have a Spanish speaking citizen with a better grasp on English so we can get a smoother translation out of it? I imagine a non-Spanish speaker could do this, but I fear the quality of the article would suffer. So if you can point me in the right direction, that'd be great. --Todd Coles 21:37, 6 March 2008 (CST)

After more digging, I found the CZ:International list and messaged Ro about this, so hopefully that will help and you can ignore this message unless you have someone in mind. --Todd Coles 21:48, 6 March 2008 (CST)

Recipe formalization

Hi, please have a look at CZ:Proposals/Recipes_Subpage_and_Accompanying_Usage_Policy#Concrete_Steps_Ahead and let us complete it so that it can be formalized and moved to the next stage quickly. Supten Sarbadhikari 21:46, 6 March 2008 (CST)

Help archive, please

Okay so where do I put this? user talk:Aleta Curry/Archive 2

and how come it isn't in the little archive box at the top like a good little...whatever it is?

You can just look at my contribs to see what I did to do this it for you. Stephen Ewen 04:00, 9 March 2008 (CDT)

User talk:Aleta Curry/Archive 5

January 2008 Write-a-thon?

"Class acts" indeed.

Fuzzy dog

Black Beauty

Party Hearty!

thanks...

thanks

Thanks but Sorry

thanks

Drink of the month

CZ live

Sorry

Clusters?

Subpages

Mistress

May you take a look to Fossilization?

Trouble with subpage call

You act like I work here or something..

Olympic Games catalogs

Welcome

Thanks for the invite

CZ International - thanks for getting us moving!

Hebrew handwriting

Re Dog/Draft approval

Re Dog/Draft approval

Nomination banner up for Dog/Draft

Recipes again

Rottweiler

Congrats on March 01 2008 approval of Dog/Draft

Oh Recipes!

Getting in early

Template:EZnotice

input requested on naming convention proposal

inclusion

Write-a-thon theme

Wobbly table

Led Zeppelin

Thanks

Hi yourself!

Spanish Translation

Recipe formalization

Help archive, please

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