Talk:Computer: Difference between revisions
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:Is there any objection to put a deepening layer in the [[Computers]] pages? I would suggest the following layer between computers and the final detail pages: [[Computer Science]] [[Science of Computers]] and [[Computer Linguistics and Semantics]] (Generally the first two are distinguished as follows: deployment of science, pure science (theoretical) and logics, linguistics and semantics oriented. | :Is there any objection to put a deepening layer in the [[Computers]] pages? I would suggest the following layer between computers and the final detail pages: [[Computer Science]] [[Science of Computers]] and [[Computer Linguistics and Semantics]] (Generally the first two are distinguished as follows: deployment of science, pure science (theoretical) and logics, linguistics and semantics oriented. | ||
:Thanks. | :Thanks. | ||
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::That sounds fine to me. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "deepening layer" and breaking computer linguistics /semantics out from the rest of Computer Science is something I'd have to see more about, but overall - sounds great, please get started. I'll watch this page (with the ''watch'' tab above) and help out where I can. [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 16:08, 24 November 2006 (CST) | ::That sounds fine to me. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "deepening layer" and breaking computer linguistics /semantics out from the rest of Computer Science is something I'd have to see more about, but overall - sounds great, please get started. I'll watch this page (with the ''watch'' tab above) and help out where I can. [[User:JesseWeinstein|JesseWeinstein]] 16:08, 24 November 2006 (CST) | ||
== Delete the link between the Computers page to the Computers article == | == Delete the link between the Computers page to the Computers article== | ||
Hello, | Hello, | ||
I am figuring out how to delete the present link between Computers and the file Computers and inserting a choice layer inbetween, containing the proposed diversion of topics. | I am figuring out how to delete the present link between Computers and the file Computers and inserting a choice layer inbetween, containing the proposed diversion of topics. | ||
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== Discussion Area == | ==Discussion Area== | ||
following here [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]] 22:37, 10 March 2007 (CST) | following here [[User:Robert Tito|Robert Tito]] | [[User talk:Robert Tito|Talk]] 22:37, 10 March 2007 (CST) | ||
Shouldn't the article be cleaned up before approval. It has at least still missing pictures (I copied them over from WP) and a strange, unnumbered "18" reference. Some real world references which don't expire (i.e. books) would also be nice. Or are we assuming the editors do that? --[[User:Markus Baumeister|Markus Baumeister]] 06:38, 11 March 2007 (CDT) | Shouldn't the article be cleaned up before approval. It has at least still missing pictures (I copied them over from WP) and a strange, unnumbered "18" reference. Some real world references which don't expire (i.e. books) would also be nice. Or are we assuming the editors do that? --[[User:Markus Baumeister|Markus Baumeister]] 06:38, 11 March 2007 (CDT) | ||
== Moving == | ==Moving== | ||
I'm moving this to the singular form of the title. No reason for it to live at "computers" rather than "computer." --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 09:24, 11 March 2007 (CDT) | I'm moving this to the singular form of the title. No reason for it to live at "computers" rather than "computer." --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]] 09:24, 11 March 2007 (CDT) | ||
== Professional Societies == | ==Professional Societies== | ||
I made ACM and the IEEE Computer Scociety into external links. Certainly my intent is not discourage articles on those particular organizations. Rather, it just seems that a link to the organization itself is preferable to a red link. If someone does write an article on either of these organizations, it would, of course, make sense to relink them. But how does one track such things? [[User:Greg Woodhouse|Greg]] 01:01, 29 March 2007 (CDT) | I made ACM and the IEEE Computer Scociety into external links. Certainly my intent is not discourage articles on those particular organizations. Rather, it just seems that a link to the organization itself is preferable to a red link. If someone does write an article on either of these organizations, it would, of course, make sense to relink them. But how does one track such things? [[User:Greg Woodhouse|Greg]] 01:01, 29 March 2007 (CDT) | ||
=Notice of desire for a major revision= | =Notice of desire for a major revision= | ||
Hi all, I'm new here. I have taken the liberty of revising the status of this article down from a 1 to a 2. I am seeking permission to attempt a major revision of this article; if you agree, it will take me about a week to come up with it. My main complaint with this article is that is doesn't help a reader see the forest because there are too many trees. | Hi all, I'm new here. I have taken the liberty of revising the status of this article down from a 1 to a 2. I am seeking permission to attempt a major revision of this article; if you agree, it will take me about a week to come up with it. My main complaint with this article is that is doesn't help a reader see the forest because there are too many trees. | ||
Revision as of 13:55, 23 April 2007
Workgroup category or categories | Computers Workgroup [Please add or review categories] |
Article status | Developing article: beyond a stub, but incomplete |
Underlinked article? | No |
Basic cleanup done? | No |
Checklist last edited by | Markus Baumeister 06:38, 11 March 2007 (CDT) |
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- Is there any objection to put a deepening layer in the Computers pages? I would suggest the following layer between computers and the final detail pages: Computer Science Science of Computers and Computer Linguistics and Semantics (Generally the first two are distinguished as follows: deployment of science, pure science (theoretical) and logics, linguistics and semantics oriented.
- Thanks.
- Rob
- That sounds fine to me. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "deepening layer" and breaking computer linguistics /semantics out from the rest of Computer Science is something I'd have to see more about, but overall - sounds great, please get started. I'll watch this page (with the watch tab above) and help out where I can. JesseWeinstein 16:08, 24 November 2006 (CST)
Delete the link between the Computers page to the Computers article
Hello, I am figuring out how to delete the present link between Computers and the file Computers and inserting a choice layer inbetween, containing the proposed diversion of topics.
Any help???
thanks Cassiopeia 22:07, 7 December 2006 (CST)Robert Tito
Discussion Area
following here Robert Tito | Talk 22:37, 10 March 2007 (CST)
Shouldn't the article be cleaned up before approval. It has at least still missing pictures (I copied them over from WP) and a strange, unnumbered "18" reference. Some real world references which don't expire (i.e. books) would also be nice. Or are we assuming the editors do that? --Markus Baumeister 06:38, 11 March 2007 (CDT)
Moving
I'm moving this to the singular form of the title. No reason for it to live at "computers" rather than "computer." --Larry Sanger 09:24, 11 March 2007 (CDT)
Professional Societies
I made ACM and the IEEE Computer Scociety into external links. Certainly my intent is not discourage articles on those particular organizations. Rather, it just seems that a link to the organization itself is preferable to a red link. If someone does write an article on either of these organizations, it would, of course, make sense to relink them. But how does one track such things? Greg 01:01, 29 March 2007 (CDT)
Notice of desire for a major revision
Hi all, I'm new here. I have taken the liberty of revising the status of this article down from a 1 to a 2. I am seeking permission to attempt a major revision of this article; if you agree, it will take me about a week to come up with it. My main complaint with this article is that is doesn't help a reader see the forest because there are too many trees.
This article appears to have been brought from Wikipedia originally, although it has been edited somewhat. I don't think we here in Citizendium particularly need to duplicate the Wikipedia approach, which I have found to be infuriatingly filled with details but still inaccurate somehow. I'm hoping to achieve a new perspective altogether, which may eventually point off to many splinter topics, but one which is substantially different than Wikipedia, which in my opinion, is trying to be a user manual or cheat sheet for college students.
A sample of my writing can currently be found in the German language article in Citizendium, which I recently replaced. I know the "Computer" is a topic a lot of people know a lot about, and many of us work with them. But they have been my life's work for 25 years or more, by training and profession. Please give me your honest opinions; I don't want to start an edit war or anything.Pat Palmer 16:22, 3 April 2007 (CDT)
- I have now posted in the Computer workgroup forum that I'd like to make a stab at a complete overhaul (as in, throw out the existing and start over) of the Computer article. I have posted a rough draft of my (brainstormed) ideas here. If no one stops me, I plan to wait a day or two and just go for it, but I'm trying to get the word out first. A lot of people have an interest in this article, and it's sort of at the top of the food chain. We wouldn't really lose anything by wiping this article and trying to write from scratch, because all the details are sitting over there in Wikipedia where we could recover them at any time :-) Please let me know your thoughts.Pat Palmer 22:19, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
- Hi Pat. You should start out by checking out Get ready to rethink how to write encyclopedia_articles! and Article Mechanics: Miscellaneous style guidelines. One great way to go about a major revision is to make it at User:Pat Palmer/Computer draft or User:Pat Palmer/My Sandbox, then post the link here and to people in the Computers Workgroup soliciting feedback. Also see here. Regarding that, which specific articles besides this one are you referring to? ---Stephen Ewen 22:25, 4 April 2007 (CDT)
- I'd help out where I could with the revision you're talking about... pretty much the meat of my replies to your posts are here and here --Eric M Gearhart 07:36, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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